Posted by: chineseambassador | June 23, 2008

White People are Completely Crazy

This is one of the things about Western culture (white people in particular) that drives me nuts. And this will likely offend LOTS of white people, so get ready for it. I know ya’ll are really upset that we don’t bash Whitey enough, so make sure you really soak this up, okay?

[Disclaimer: CBC has a totally different opinion than me on this, so feel free to stick up for her and bash me at will]

Animals as pets. This issue has been simmering for me, because I’ve undergone a radical transformation on the issue of animals living with people. And it came to head when I read this bit of lunacy today.

First, I was a cat lover at one point in my life. Had a couple cats, loved them to death, didn’t care that my eyes swelled shut if the hair got near me, and sobbed like a baby when my first kitty died (when I was 17). But once I had kids I really changed in a way that I didn’t expect.

Suddenly I became a germaphobe. And since one of my kids suffers from horrible excema and accompanying MRSA staph infections, being a germaphobe serves me well. Suddenly I couldn’t stand the THOUGHT of a cat being in my house. I would go to friend’s houses, where there would be cat litter pans in the bathroom….and I’d freak out. You let a pan of CAT SHIT sit in your bathroom? Are you freaking serious? How revolting.

But then it was more than just the cat pan that got me feeling grossed out. Suddenly it was the animal hair…the thought of pet dander all over my kids’ beds…the thought of those nasty little animals dragging their buttholes across my carpet (That stupid chick actually thought that was funny. And I didn’t see any carpet cleaner nearby. D-I-S-G-U-S-T-I-N-G. If that were my rug I would have torn it up and thrown it in the dumpster)…the fact that animals lick their asses and then lick people’s faces. How can human beings live like that, and with children in the house???

Then it was the way friends’ dogs stuck their noses in everybody’s crotch, and ate the toads that hopped around on the sidewalk after dark. Bloody toad messes on the driveway. Yum.

And then I started to wonder why people in the West treat these beasts like they are children. We honestly talk about about our “furry family members” and how we dropped $1000 at the vet for little Tigger to get his kidneys assessed. Seriously. We are freaking NUTS. The woman in that article above actually compared her cats to her own son, and went without her own blood pressure medication so she could medicate her cats (who are so old they are going to die soon anyway). Wonder how her son feels about his wacko mother endangering her own health for the sake of her cats?

Do we, as Americans, truly think that if we are so poor we need government assistance and food stamps to FEED OURSELVES, that we should still be taking on the burden of feeding pets? Could we really be this pampered? This silly?

And here we come to crux of the issue.

Asians get this. When Ang was growing up in China people did not have animals living in their homes with them. And from CBC’s comments here, I gather that it is completely foreign to Indian culture as well. And yes, I know that some Koreans eat dogs. But you know what? I don’t find that nearly as offensive as I would have at 17.

In fact, I am in total solidarity with Asians on this topic. Animals belong in barns. White people are freaking crazy. We think we’re so enlightened, and that only savages would treat dogs and cats, like, well, animals. I think this is a case of the pendulum swinging too far in the other direction. In some ways we in the West are really “enlightened” (you know, how we don’t chain women to the house and make them wear bags over their heads) — but in this case I think we are way over-indulged.

There is one exception: seeing-eye dogs, or other animals like that.

[Commence screeching from all the pet owners!]


(I stole this from one of my blogging friends, it was so hilarious. “Existential Cat”)


Responses

  1. I get everything you say. I just still succumb to my love of the furry. I LOVE my dog and pay ridiculous sums of money to make sure her teeth are cleaned and she has all her shots, just like a crazy American pet owner should. LOL

    I think it’s the unconditional love thing. And she’s so cute. I had a menagerie of pets growing up. And DD loves this dog. It sleeps with her (probably making you want to puke at the “dirtiness” factor of that!). I do have to wash her quilt A LOT.

    I try not to think about the germs and stuff. This is partly why I have a teeny tiny dog. Much easier to control and everything is smaller – smaller poop, no shedding, less expense, less food, etc.

    But I still get where you’re coming from. A family that is friends with MIL and FIL got a dog last year. MIL and FIL couldn’t believe it, but the wife’s family in India is wealthy and she’d always had a dog there growing up. Now her kids had been begging for one. They brought it to the in-laws one time when they were visiting. MIL and FIL were not amused. LOL They ended up tying the poor thing out on the porch because MIL was just getting too nervous about it the longer it was inside. She kept wringing her hands and thinking it was going to bite DD in the face. I forget the breed – it was one of those smaller puff ball sorts of dogs. It was a puppy, too, and mostly just wanted to lick the heck out of DD, which she thought was fabulous (again with the germs!).

    Frankly, she’s gotten a lot more sick from going to school with other kids than she’s ever gotten from an animal – which would be never.

  2. yeah I would be right there with your MIL. LOL Funny how I would have more in common with Saresh’s mom on this issue than most Americans,eh?

  3. Outdoor cats on a farm are fun, though. That’s what I grew up with. But if they got sick, my dad financed only the minimum care. Once a cat got her back leg shot off during hunting season and my dad paid the vet to heal that wound, but he wasn’t very “invested” in most of the cats.

  4. I’ll start by saying I am definitely not a germaphobe. Sometimes Im annoyed at cat hair on the floor, but I dont see it as any health issue. Not anymore than the nastiness that other humans can create(projectile vomit anyone?)

    I know lots of Indians (in India) who had pet dogs, and they were not wealthy. I dont think its uncommon, at least in certain parts. Cats are not as common as housepets but there are people who feed a cat or two on a regular basis and let it into their home, and get attached. But I also know many Indians who are scared of cats, and oddly, to a lesser extent, dogs.

    Actually the homes in India Ive been to dont seem very obsessed abt pure and sanitary conditions in general, so I doubt that would be why they dont have pets!!

  5. Oh, but I do have to agree with you, some people are crazy in how overboard they go for their pets! Spending thousands on operations or getting specially made wheelchair type things. Or the inexplicable doggie sweaters that cost more than my own sweaters.

  6. Maybe I should have made that more clear – I don’t have any idea if Indians (and the Chinese people I know) object to pets based on sanitary reasons – that’s purely the reasoning behind my own thinking.

    Honestly if it’s not for sanitary reasons, then I don’t know why they object. I was only saying that whatever their reasoning, I’m in total agreement. LOL

    Incidentally what set this off, was reading a blog by a black guy who made the same comment about dogs (about how some people are obsessed with them and he doesn’t get it, nor care to.) I think the site was http://stuffblackpeoplehate.com/

    (read that site. It’s freaking hilarious. I love the latest entry on farmers markets. But beware the awful language and awful stereotyping – there are regular fights on that blog. har har)

  7. My husband had a dog in India. I’d say that dog had the same level of care as a U.S. dog or even higher. The dog had a fragile stomach so everyday the dog ate a homemade vegetarian meal cooked by my husband’s mother! The dog apparently couldn’t tolerate meat. The dog also had regular vet visits. This was in the ’90s to around 2003 or 2004.

    On the other hand, the the dog did have to live outside the house. Everyone got tired of the dog hair in the house.

    My husband wants a dog very much so once we get a house we will probably get one. Some parts of the house would be off-limits, though.

    One difference between Indian and American attitudes could be neutering. My husband thinks it is cruel to neuter dogs.

  8. Ok I’ve decided to take a totally unscientific poll of my neighborhood. Right now, my neighborhood is about 30-40% Indian, and the rest is white and Hispanic.

    So when I take my walk tonight, I’ll see how many of the Indian families have pet accessories. So far I’ve seen none, but they might be out there. Right now I can think of 10 of my neighbors offhand who have dogs, and they are all white. (I previously mentioned that I know which households in my neighborhood are Indian, based on the number of shoes on the front step, but I was being a little but tongue-in-cheek. I actually see them out enough to know who lives where.)

    They are going to think I’m weird now. “Priti, did you see that white girl craning her neck, trying to see over our back fence last night?”
    lol

  9. OMG I was reading the comments on that site I posted earlier, and someone posted this:

    “yeah i don’t know what it is about white people and not washing their hands or eating what the hell ever. I worked w/ a lady once who grew tomatoes. As she was showing me her backyard, she picked a couple of tomatoes and handed one to me. Then she started eating hers (mind you she’d been petting and kissing her nasty ass dog right before) and she looked at me and told me “taste it, it’s really nice and juicy”….. Ummmm, no! First of all this ain’t no fruit (technically yes, but I can’t take a bite out of a big ass tomato) and second, the dog just spent his afternoon in the backyard. How do I know he didn’t sprinkle on there tomatoes?? I left her tomato on her kitchen counter…”

    Ok so is this really how other cultures see white people? As unsanitary? I’m curious now! I thought I was being sort of germaphobic and weird about it, but the more comments I read on that farmers market post the more I realize how we must come across. LOL (But, as noted, I’m a freak about germs so I don’t eat stuff that’s been sitting out at the market, that other people have pawed through.)

  10. OMG. I’ve missed so much. I don’t mind pets, I really wish I could still have one. But, I am too allergic. I had to get rid of my cat (I was 40 never had issues before). It was just as well because my son’s sinus issues cleared up.

    Of course you know my MOM is a freaking cat fanatic. She values cats over people and that is where I draw the line. Pets are not people, no matter how much we love and adore them. My MOM paid for her cat to have an EKG (that she couldn’t afford) to see if the cat needed medications for a heart condition.

    “What?” She says. “When the vet explained to me what could be done for her, I had to spend the $$. I could not ignore the problem in good conscience.”

    Um. Yes she could. The cat, if it did have this heart condition, would have eventually had a quiet, quick heart failure death. Not painful. Not messy. Just a shorter lifespan. I cannot condone shelling out big bucks for “tests” on pets.

    Please don’t get too mad at me!!! My mom was going through this cat EKG thing around the same time my pediatrician was telling me my child needed to be tested for Cystic Fibrosis. It’s really hard to be empathetic with someone who places their cats over their grandkids in the worry department.

  11. My sister is borderline “cats are people” – she has two cats and DD is highly allergic. When she stays with my sister, she comes back home and her nose runs for 2-3 weeks and the time before last, it backed up into her ears and she got an ear infection, which cost us $100 between the doctor and the meds. Now, we’re supposed to visit my parents later this summer and my sister wants to go. She’s bringing her cats! Why can’t she just get a cat sitter like when she does for traveling with work? Because they’re her baaaabieeeees and 1 week is too long to leave them. She also spends an ungodly amount of $ on the one cat, which has some sort of chronic bladder condition (crystals form or something and then the cat can’t pee – it needs special $$$ food, too). My mom thinks I’m the one being unreasonable about this. Humpf. Okay, minor cat rant over.

    As much as I love my dog, I had a perspective change when I had a child. My priorities regarding animals shifted quite a bit. So my sister and I butt heads on this issue.

  12. I love my 100 pound Doberman and Labrador ‘kids.’ We don’t have children, and I enjoy their company. I actually like the dogs more than a lot of humans I know. :)

  13. There is actually a doggie daycare here. A customer told me she’d be back for her prescriptions later because she had to pick up her dogs from doggie daycare. I thought WTH? What happened to letting them play in the backyard all day while we’re gone to work? LOL. That being said, I am a total animal lover. But, do not mistake me for that overboard animal lover. I do NOT call my pets fur-people. You want to see my mom get pissed, let her SIL refer to her brother and his wife’s dog as my mom’s niece.

    Animals are family to me, but I cannot let one suffer either. We had to put down our cat a week ago Friday. Apparently she either got into poison or ate a rat that had been poisoned. We live on wooded property, as do the neighbors. The vet ran a blood tests, her liver enzymes were 3x what they should have been, her potassium was nil, and her kidneys had started failing. Mom asked the vet honestly if there was any chance of saving her. He said less than 10%, so she decided to have her put to sleep to keep her from suffering.

    Since I was told I would never have children on my own, I suppose my pets have been a substitute. They do love unconditionally. When I go to my parents, I sometimes take my cat with me, and sometimes I don’t. I guess I just don’t worry so much about germs with pets. Dogs actually have the most anti-bacterial saliva of all the mammals. But, if my apartment has a few too many cat hairs about, I will NOT let my friends visit until I have got it good and vacuumed up. Also, the enclosed litter box is in my bathroom, but when we were running tests on stuff from bathroom surfaces in my medical bacteriology lab, mine did not grow anything that we could test for. Don’t know that will make you feel any better about it CA :)

  14. OH!

    Have you ever seen that show where a lab team goes into people’s houses and tests certain areas for germs? (Yeah, I totally should not be watching a show like that but WHATEVER)

    This one episode, they tested this kitchen. The homeowners had a dog that they let jump up on the countertops, and they were always kissing and cuddling it. WELL. The bacteria they found all over the kitchen counters, dishes by the sink, washcloths, and the “clean” glasses that had been washed…was some sort of fecal bacteria only found in dog sh*t. Plus about 4,000X the amount of normal bacteria.

    It was DISGUSTING. But then, they weren’t the smartest people. I mean who lets their animals jump up on the counter? (and drag their assholes all over it? Thinking of that nasty carpet video again…)

    Lord. I’ve got issues.

  15. Now this is a comment string which I’m willing to read! :)

    My fiance and I are huge animal fans. I always had dogs growing up, he always wanted one, and we both agree with Milan Kundera that how people treat animals says a lot about them as human beings.

    To cheer me up some days, my fiance will find a fluffy doggie on the street and beg its owner to wait so I can come see it. When he is at his height of frustration with how much he dislikes how his parents live, he insists he is going to get them a dog and see if that will help “normalize” them. Clearly we believe in the power of pets. :)

    But last spring, we got a dog. A super cute, clean, princessy little lapdog. It didn’t go so well. It drove me nuts to spend $40/day on doggie daycare, at least $400 a month at the vet, and I could never fully focus on work or stay there late freely because I knew how much she hated being alone. Eventually, when we realized we never spoke to each other anymore and she was like having a child, we let her be adopted by some friends with kids who are home a lot more than us and have a yard.

    To this day, though, my SO insists we will get another dog as soon as we can, and we’ve discussed all sorts of breeds and named about 10 animals by now. I continue to chase dogs down the street to pet them, only to coo about them for the next hour or so. Currently my obsession is with Corgis and Bulldogs. But Cavaliers and Pomeranians are not far behind, and I discover a new breed by the week. But I don’t know if I want another, truth be told. It’s a complex issue. :)

  16. Ok BGS. You are officially over the line!

    FREAK!

    ( ;) )

  17. oh – and yes, having a high maintainance pet is practice for children. Except that you’ll love your kid 4 billionX more than an animal.

    Unless of course, you are a FREAK.

    muhahahaa.

  18. Muhahha, we have two Pomeranians at my parents BGS LOL. They are the first and last indoor dogs we’ll ever have LOL. I can say, you can NEVER break a male dog from hiking his leg, no matter how much training he has had. They’ll always do it when you’re not looking LOL.

    Our pets are NOT allowed on the counters! YUCK! We do not touch them while cooking either, in fact, we usually chase them out of the room. We do not allow our pets to lick us on the face either…they get fussed at if they do it, which is seldom. We also always wash our hands every single time before touching any food or drink simply because we have pets.

    I do have a funny story for you, although our dog got in trouble for it. Mom was preparing herself a bedtime snack. She’d taken her glass of milk to the living room and set it on the end table. Mom did not pay attention that the smarter Pom was on the couch. When she came back, her glass of milk was nearly empty. Not a drop had been spilled, and there was no evidence of the glass being cracked. Our other Pom can’t jump up onto the couch on his own. He has arthritis due to Lyme Disease he contracted early on, so there was only one suspect. She was VERY sneaky about it too. Mom had to get a new glass of milk…in a new glass because of that LOL.

  19. Go smart milk-drinking doggie!! Yeah, cleanliness is key when the pooch is in the house. Part of why I don’t want another dog is that the house does feel cleaner and it is so much less work to keep it that way sans-animals. That said, they are cute little love bunnies that make you live longer (it’s proven)!

    Now that I think about it, you have a milk-drinking doggie? Wow – and I thought my avocado-loving pooch was unique. My parents don’t give them veggies anymore b/c they can be bad for dogs, but this one dog they have is like a veggie vacuum.

  20. Our likes carrots, which I have to keep away from her. If she gets a hold of a carrot stick, she just chews it like a bone, except it just gets shredded all over the floor and it’s in such tiny sticky pieces it’s impossible to get up without having to mop! It was a while convincing DD not to sneak her a carrot… “but she loves them, Mama!” She does love that dog.

    I thought having the dog was extremely useful in teaching DD about being gentle and kind and taking care of others and responsibility. Those are sometime hard lessons to learn for as egocentric as toddlers are.

  21. Totally! Disney princesses and dogs/animals are two of the most useful teaching tools ever, IMO. What kind of dog is it?

  22. “I thought having the dog was extremely useful in teaching DD about being gentle and kind and taking care of others and responsibility. Those are sometime hard lessons to learn for as egocentric as toddlers are.”

    yeah this is why I have three kids and no pets. You should have seen what happened yesterday when I took them all to the store. The fighting got so bad that I bought these strawberry milkshakes, and then drank them right in front of the kids…tortured them for a while…as they begged and pleaded for the milkshake….then when they couldn’t take it another second, I made them swear not to fight in the next store. They were like WE PROMISE WE PROMISE PLEASE CAN WE HAVE A MILKSHAKE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE NO WE WON’T FIGHT WE PROMISE PLEASE PLEASE

    They sucked those down in record time. I’m losing all of my parental scruples.

  23. She’s a toy poodle – about 9 lbs, and I’m convinced about 1 lb of it is fur. She mostly just wants to be snuggled up on your lap. I call her a “comfort dog.”

    CA – You know I totally endorse bribery as a parental tool. ;)

  24. We get our dogs the pom/poodle cut during summer because of the Texas heat. It’s a combo cut, and now some other people are doing it too that go to our groomers. They basically clip the hair short, trim up the feathers on the feet, and round their little tails into little poms :) They look a LOT like larger chihuahuas when their fur is clipped short.

    Our dogs try to talk to us also. Does anyone else’s do that. Mom can put me on speaker phone, and if I talk to them, they would try and “talk” back to me. It is comforting when I can’t be home frequently.

  25. I love snuggly dogs. I can never get the smell off my hands afterward, but I can’t help but snuggle them anyway.

    Our golden retriever used to talk to us, but not to the extent yours did. Yours literally was trying to communicate back! Ours would vocalize some interesting low-pitched noises when he wanted attention or when he was “hugging” your leg (kind of leaning against it, getting petted). But that was about it.

  26. Im a white guy and Ive got to agree with you about the pet thing….we act like they are children and thats pretty creepy at times. Problem is my wife is mexican and she cant be away from our pug for more than a few hours without worrying about him and I wanted him outside ( she won ) I guess stereotypes excist for a reason but I defy the logic…lol


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